From thowe at bendtel.net  Sun Jan  8 11:37:33 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (TimH)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:37:33 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Happy new year
Message-ID: <20120108113733.104790bb@sleeper.dirtymonday.net>

This is really just to make sure I successfully moved the Mailman config to the new server...

--TimH

From thowe at bendtel.net  Thu Jan 12 19:06:03 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (TimH)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:06:03 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
Message-ID: <20120112190603.2bc73c5a@sleeper.dirtymonday.net>

A few months ago David was asking about another meeting...

Ever since the last meeting I've been thinking about maybe talking a
little bit about Perl.  I was pleasantly surprised at how much interest
there was in Perl at the last meeting, and I thought a short discussion
about Modern Perl as well as maybe a quick howto on local::lib or
App:Perlbrew (though, I tend to install local Perl without it pretty
easily) might be of interest.

There were also some folks who had not really looked at Perl yet and
seemed to have some interest in doing so...  Some question, answer, and
show-me would be nice for them.  I know we have a few people with
decent experience.

I could even talk a bit about Catalyst, but I'm hardly an expert and
using it assumes some knowledge of a few other things.

There are get-togethers in town heavy into Ruby, Rails and the latest
JavaScript fads (and I like those things too!), but it seems you have
to go to Portland for some serious Perl love.  Maybe we can do
something about that.

Being a group that was formed by SysAdmin types, we could focus on
using Perl from that angle too (there are some must-have CPAN modules
for those types too!  Seen App::CMD?  its the bees knees).

Anyway, just sort of throwing stuff out there.  Any interest?

Not sure what to do for a venue...  An overhead projector would also be
handy.

--TimH

From awinnenb at gmail.com  Thu Jan 12 19:06:41 2012
From: awinnenb at gmail.com (Andrew Winnenberg)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:06:41 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On 01/12/2012 07:06 PM, TimH wrote:
> A few months ago David was asking about another meeting...

<snip>

> Anyway, just sort of throwing stuff out there.  Any interest?
>
> Not sure what to do for a venue...  An overhead projector would also be
> handy.
>
> --TimH

I second the motion for a meeting and would love to hear a presentation 
on perl.

I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with Bend to propose a location, but 
I'll be there.

Andrew

From jesset at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 00:12:45 2012
From: jesset at gmail.com (Jesse Thompson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:12:45 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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I think I missed the last meeting, but perl sounds like a fair topic.

I'd be interested to hear package management mantra on different platforms,
and about the benefits of Perl 6 over earlier iterations (is that even
common in distros yet?)

- - Jesse
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From jlrichesin at newqc.com  Fri Jan 13 06:43:50 2012
From: jlrichesin at newqc.com (Josh Richesin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:43:50 -0600
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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I'm in.



On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:13 AM, "Jesse Thompson" <jesset at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I missed the last meeting, but perl sounds like a fair topic.
> 
> I'd be interested to hear package management mantra on different platforms, and about the benefits of Perl 6 over earlier iterations (is that even common in distros yet?)
> 
> - - Jesse

From david at fierbaugh.net  Fri Jan 13 07:16:31 2012
From: david at fierbaugh.net (David)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:16:31 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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Sounds fun! Where and when?

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Josh Richesin <jlrichesin at newqc.com> wrote:

> I'm in.
>
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:13 AM, "Jesse Thompson" <jesset at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think I missed the last meeting, but perl sounds like a fair topic.
> >
> > I'd be interested to hear package management mantra on different
> platforms, and about the benefits of Perl 6 over earlier iterations (is
> that even common in distros yet?)
> >
> > - - Jesse
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From thowe at bendtel.net  Fri Jan 13 09:20:37 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:20:37 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:12:45 -0800
Jesse Thompson <jesset at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I missed the last meeting, but perl sounds like a fair topic.
> 
> I'd be interested to hear package management mantra on different platforms,
> and about the benefits of Perl 6 over earlier iterations (is that even
> common in distros yet?)

	I can't speak for "distros" as I use OpenBSD almost
exclusively.  OpenBSD comes with Perl 5.12 which is plenty new for most
purposes.  Sadly, some very common Linux systems still come with a very
old Perl 5.8.

	Rolling your own local Perl isn't difficult.  Also, I tend to
not use system packages for my CPAN needs, and I will explain why and
demonstrate a very easily managed alternative which won't be news to
anyone using Perl regularly.

	I won't really be speaking on Perl 6.  I have played with it,
and it does look nifty, but compiling the latest code is proving a
challenge, so I haven't used anything newer than Rakudo Star (July
2011).  Perl 6 development has had influences on Perl 5 that can be
seen in some new core features as well as popular modules such as Moose
and autobox (and Moose::Autobox :).

--TimH

From thowe at bendtel.net  Fri Jan 13 09:22:08 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:22:08 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:16:31 -0800
David <david at fierbaugh.net> wrote:

> Sounds fun! Where and when?

	Where is going to be the challenge, I think.  Let me work on that.

	When will be sometime after I have managed to put about 15
minutes worth of notes together...

--TimH

From robert at broofa.com  Fri Jan 13 09:34:41 2012
From: robert at broofa.com (Robert Kieffer)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:34:41 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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'Not sure if Rusty (cc'ed) is on this list, but sounds like he should be.
 He's a local Perl expert.

As for Venue, you're welcome to meet at TechSpace. The conference room
holds 10 people and if we go over we can spill into the main space. And
we've got a projector. Better still, we're beer-friendly.  :)

Can someone add Rusty/send him info on how to join if he's not already
on-list?

- rwk

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:06 PM, TimH <thowe at bendtel.net> wrote:

> A few months ago David was asking about another meeting...
>
> Ever since the last meeting I've been thinking about maybe talking a
> little bit about Perl.  I was pleasantly surprised at how much interest
> there was in Perl at the last meeting, and I thought a short discussion
> about Modern Perl as well as maybe a quick howto on local::lib or
> App:Perlbrew (though, I tend to install local Perl without it pretty
> easily) might be of interest.
>
> There were also some folks who had not really looked at Perl yet and
> seemed to have some interest in doing so...  Some question, answer, and
> show-me would be nice for them.  I know we have a few people with
> decent experience.
>
> I could even talk a bit about Catalyst, but I'm hardly an expert and
> using it assumes some knowledge of a few other things.
>
> There are get-togethers in town heavy into Ruby, Rails and the latest
> JavaScript fads (and I like those things too!), but it seems you have
> to go to Portland for some serious Perl love.  Maybe we can do
> something about that.
>
> Being a group that was formed by SysAdmin types, we could focus on
> using Perl from that angle too (there are some must-have CPAN modules
> for those types too!  Seen App::CMD?  its the bees knees).
>
> Anyway, just sort of throwing stuff out there.  Any interest?
>
> Not sure what to do for a venue...  An overhead projector would also be
> handy.
>
> --TimH
>
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From thowe at bendtel.net  Fri Jan 13 11:15:16 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:15:16 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:34:41 -0800
Robert Kieffer <robert at broofa.com> wrote:

> 'Not sure if Rusty (cc'ed) is on this list, but sounds like he should be.
>  He's a local Perl expert.

	Well, I doubt I will have anything interesting to say to an
expert.  I'm aiming this at casual folks.  It will be great to have
folks on hand who can answer questions, though, as 90% of the time will
almost certainly be informal discussion.

> As for Venue, you're welcome to meet at TechSpace. The conference room
> holds 10 people and if we go over we can spill into the main space. And
> we've got a projector. Better still, we're beer-friendly.  :)

	That sounds great!  Honestly, that should have occurred to me.
Is there something like a sign-up sheet?

--TimH

From awinnenb at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 11:27:43 2012
From: awinnenb at gmail.com (Andrew Winnenberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:27:43 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On 01/13/2012 11:15 AM, Tim Howe wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:34:41 -0800
> Robert Kieffer<robert at broofa.com>  wrote:
>
>> 'Not sure if Rusty (cc'ed) is on this list, but sounds like he should be.
>>   He's a local Perl expert.
>
> 	Well, I doubt I will have anything interesting to say to an
> expert.  I'm aiming this at casual folks.  It will be great to have
> folks on hand who can answer questions, though, as 90% of the time will
> almost certainly be informal discussion.
>
>> As for Venue, you're welcome to meet at TechSpace. The conference room
>> holds 10 people and if we go over we can spill into the main space. And
>> we've got a projector. Better still, we're beer-friendly.  :)
>
> 	That sounds great!  Honestly, that should have occurred to me.
> Is there something like a sign-up sheet?
>
> --TimH

Would TechSpace be open to hosting the UG on a regular basis? It'd be 
nice to have a set schedule for meetings.

Andrew

From thowe at bendtel.net  Fri Jan 13 12:21:18 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:21:18 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:27:43 -0800
Andrew Winnenberg <awinnenb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would TechSpace be open to hosting the UG on a regular basis? It'd be 
> nice to have a set schedule for meetings.

	Call the next meeting.  I'll probably be there.

	We tend to have them as often as someone says "Hey, let's get
together".  Someone may as well be you :)

--TimH

From awinnenb at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 13:06:49 2012
From: awinnenb at gmail.com (Andrew Winnenberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:06:49 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On 01/13/2012 12:21 PM, Tim Howe wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:27:43 -0800
> Andrew Winnenberg<awinnenb at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> Would TechSpace be open to hosting the UG on a regular basis? It'd be
>> nice to have a set schedule for meetings.
>
> 	Call the next meeting.  I'll probably be there.
>
> 	We tend to have them as often as someone says "Hey, let's get
> together".  Someone may as well be you :)
>
> --TimH

Okay. I'll get to work on something for February. I have a short dd 
presentation and a short bash job control presentation already put 
together from the last group I worked with if people would be interested 
in either of those.

Andrew

From rbourland at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 14:31:33 2012
From: rbourland at gmail.com (Rusty Bourland)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:31:33 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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I'm on the list and was at the first/last bendug meeting.  I think I owe 
Brian $5.  I wouldn't call myself a Perl expert, but maybe "expertish".  
I've been working with more Python lately- oh snap!

Robert and I can make arrangements for the Old Cigar conference room, 
although I'm generally not available on Wednesday or Thursday evenings 
these days.

Perl 6 looks cool, but I've found Rakudo* to be very slow, surely mostly 
due to the adolescence of the Parrot virtual machine, and not yet 
suitable for production.  Having mentioned that, it's in a usable state, 
and there are some nifty packages out there already such as Bailador (a 
Dancer clone -- think Sinatra or maybe "lightweight web app 
framework").  I've also had issues with getting the newer versions to 
compile, but I haven't tried in several months now.

I believe Perl 5 has been gradually introducing Perl 6 features and 
speed optimizations as new minor revisions are released.  Since the 
reference documentation is available for Perl 6, albeit still malleable, 
the community has integrated some bits into Perl 5 via CPAN. Moose is a 
good example of this, as Tim noted.  Also check out Mouse as a 
lightweight and dependency-free implementation of Moose.  Thanks for the 
tip on Autobox. :)

Rusty

On 1/13/12 9:34 AM, Robert Kieffer wrote:
> 'Not sure if Rusty (cc'ed) is on this list, but sounds like he should 
> be.  He's a local Perl expert.
>
> As for Venue, you're welcome to meet at TechSpace. The conference room 
> holds 10 people and if we go over we can spill into the main space. 
> And we've got a projector. Better still, we're beer-friendly.  :)
>
> Can someone add Rusty/send him info on how to join if he's not already 
> on-list?
>
> - rwk
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:06 PM, TimH <thowe at bendtel.net 
> <mailto:thowe at bendtel.net>> wrote:
>
>     A few months ago David was asking about another meeting...
>
>     Ever since the last meeting I've been thinking about maybe talking a
>     little bit about Perl.  I was pleasantly surprised at how much
>     interest
>     there was in Perl at the last meeting, and I thought a short
>     discussion
>     about Modern Perl as well as maybe a quick howto on local::lib or
>     App:Perlbrew (though, I tend to install local Perl without it pretty
>     easily) might be of interest.
>
>     There were also some folks who had not really looked at Perl yet and
>     seemed to have some interest in doing so...  Some question,
>     answer, and
>     show-me would be nice for them.  I know we have a few people with
>     decent experience.
>
>     I could even talk a bit about Catalyst, but I'm hardly an expert and
>     using it assumes some knowledge of a few other things.
>
>     There are get-togethers in town heavy into Ruby, Rails and the latest
>     JavaScript fads (and I like those things too!), but it seems you have
>     to go to Portland for some serious Perl love.  Maybe we can do
>     something about that.
>
>     Being a group that was formed by SysAdmin types, we could focus on
>     using Perl from that angle too (there are some must-have CPAN modules
>     for those types too!  Seen App::CMD?  its the bees knees).
>
>     Anyway, just sort of throwing stuff out there.  Any interest?
>
>     Not sure what to do for a venue...  An overhead projector would
>     also be
>     handy.
>
>     --TimH
>
>

-- 
Rusty Bourland
rbourland at gmail.com

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From awinnenb at gmail.com  Mon Jan 23 16:28:32 2012
From: awinnenb at gmail.com (Andrew Winnenberg)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:28:32 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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Tim, are you still planning on presenting on Perl or do you want me to
jump in with one of my presentations?

Earlier today I spoke with Jim Boeddeker about hosting meetings at
TechSpace. He informed me there was a monthly $75 fee for use of the
conference room. Is this amount doable for the UG or should we keep an
eye out for other potential spaces?

Andrew

From rbourland at gmail.com  Mon Jan 23 17:05:42 2012
From: rbourland at gmail.com (Rusty Bourland)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:05:42 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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Hey guys.  Robert Kieffer and I are both tenants in the TechSpace Old 
Cigar building, so either of us can make conference room arrangements.  
Tuesdays are best for me. :)

Thanks.

Rusty

On 1/23/12 4:28 PM, Andrew Winnenberg wrote:
> Tim, are you still planning on presenting on Perl or do you want me to
> jump in with one of my presentations?
>
> Earlier today I spoke with Jim Boeddeker about hosting meetings at
> TechSpace. He informed me there was a monthly $75 fee for use of the
> conference room. Is this amount doable for the UG or should we keep an
> eye out for other potential spaces?
>
> Andrew

-- 
Rusty Bourland
rbourland at gmail.com


From thowe at bendtel.net  Mon Jan 23 17:19:32 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:19:32 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:28:32 -0800
Andrew Winnenberg <awinnenb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tim, are you still planning on presenting on Perl or do you want me to
> jump in with one of my presentations?

	If you have something, we could do that first.  It would give me time to put something together.  I haven't had any time thus far.

> Earlier today I spoke with Jim Boeddeker about hosting meetings at
> TechSpace. He informed me there was a monthly $75 fee for use of the
> conference room. Is this amount doable for the UG or should we keep an
> eye out for other potential spaces?

	We have a budget of whatever is in my pocket at the time ($2.65
at the moment)...

--TimH

From thowe at bendtel.net  Mon Jan 23 17:20:32 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:20:32 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:05:42 -0800
Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys.  Robert Kieffer and I are both tenants in the TechSpace Old 
> Cigar building, so either of us can make conference room arrangements.  
> Tuesdays are best for me. :)

	Hurray!  How do others feel about Tuesdays?


--TimH

From jlrichesin at newqc.com  Mon Jan 23 17:23:09 2012
From: jlrichesin at newqc.com (Josh Richesin)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:23:09 -0600
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
In-Reply-To: <20120123172032.7c765c72@spook.bendtel.com>
References: <20120112190603.2bc73c5a@sleeper.dirtymonday.net>
 <4F1DFB30.2080104@gmail.com> <4F1E03E6.6010006@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <833EF186-6F2B-4729-9760-7B207A21E05C@newqc.com>

Usually works for me.

On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:20 PM, "Tim Howe" <thowe at bendtel.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:05:42 -0800
> Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys.  Robert Kieffer and I are both tenants in the TechSpace Old 
>> Cigar building, so either of us can make conference room arrangements.  
>> Tuesdays are best for me. :)
> 
>    Hurray!  How do others feel about Tuesdays?
> 
> 
> --TimH

From awinnenb at gmail.com  Mon Jan 23 17:35:15 2012
From: awinnenb at gmail.com (Andrew Winnenberg)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:35:15 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
In-Reply-To: <833EF186-6F2B-4729-9760-7B207A21E05C@newqc.com>
References: <20120112190603.2bc73c5a@sleeper.dirtymonday.net>
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Message-ID: <4F1E0AD3.6010809@gmail.com>

On 01/23/2012 05:23 PM, Josh Richesin wrote:
> Usually works for me.
> 
> On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:20 PM, "Tim Howe" <thowe at bendtel.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:05:42 -0800
>> Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys.  Robert Kieffer and I are both tenants in the TechSpace Old 
>>> Cigar building, so either of us can make conference room arrangements.  
>>> Tuesdays are best for me. :)
>>
>>    Hurray!  How do others feel about Tuesdays?
>>
>>
>> --TimH

Tuesdays work for me.

Andrew

From david at fierbaugh.net  Tue Jan 24 07:14:12 2012
From: david at fierbaugh.net (David)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 07:14:12 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
In-Reply-To: <4F1E0AD3.6010809@gmail.com>
References: <20120112190603.2bc73c5a@sleeper.dirtymonday.net>
 <4F1DFB30.2080104@gmail.com> <4F1E03E6.6010006@gmail.com>
 <20120123172032.7c765c72@spook.bendtel.com>
 <833EF186-6F2B-4729-9760-7B207A21E05C@newqc.com>
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Message-ID: <CADGRWJnyvpY5LaG3NepNw2iPmuXdmu_ZGZEHnL88rc+cvh5_eA@mail.gmail.com>

Most Tuesdays work for me.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Winnenberg <awinnenb at gmail.com>wrote:

> On 01/23/2012 05:23 PM, Josh Richesin wrote:
> > Usually works for me.
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:20 PM, "Tim Howe" <thowe at bendtel.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:05:42 -0800
> >> Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey guys.  Robert Kieffer and I are both tenants in the TechSpace Old
> >>> Cigar building, so either of us can make conference room arrangements.
> >>> Tuesdays are best for me. :)
> >>
> >>    Hurray!  How do others feel about Tuesdays?
> >>
> >>
> >> --TimH
>
> Tuesdays work for me.
>
> Andrew
>
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From bgroeneveld at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 10:47:42 2012
From: bgroeneveld at gmail.com (Ben)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:47:42 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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Monthly Tuesdays, like 1st Tuesday of the Month or so, would work for me.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:14 AM, David <david at fierbaugh.net> wrote:

> Most Tuesdays work for me.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Winnenberg <awinnenb at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 01/23/2012 05:23 PM, Josh Richesin wrote:
>> > Usually works for me.
>> >
>> > On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:20 PM, "Tim Howe" <thowe at bendtel.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:05:42 -0800
>> >> Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hey guys.  Robert Kieffer and I are both tenants in the TechSpace Old
>> >>> Cigar building, so either of us can make conference room arrangements.
>> >>> Tuesdays are best for me. :)
>> >>
>> >>    Hurray!  How do others feel about Tuesdays?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --TimH
>>
>> Tuesdays work for me.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
>
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From jlrichesin at newqc.com  Tue Jan 24 11:24:50 2012
From: jlrichesin at newqc.com (Josh Richesin)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:24:50 -0600
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
In-Reply-To: <CA+Q8Tq2sq0Z=TAAv+3QT_wavyUOHc4hpxA1HJCy0V-iMcC32bA@mail.gmail.com>
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I would also like to see a standard schedule like this.

From: bendug-bounces at lists.130collective.org [mailto:bendug-bounces at lists.130collective.org] On Behalf Of Ben
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:48 AM
To: Bend unix/linux user group
Subject: Re: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?

Monthly Tuesdays, like 1st Tuesday of the Month or so, would work for me.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:14 AM, David <david at fierbaugh.net<mailto:david at fierbaugh.net>> wrote:
Most Tuesdays work for me.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Winnenberg <awinnenb at gmail.com<mailto:awinnenb at gmail.com>> wrote:
On 01/23/2012 05:23 PM, Josh Richesin wrote:
> Usually works for me.
>
> On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:20 PM, "Tim Howe" <thowe at bendtel.net<mailto:thowe at bendtel.net>> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:05:42 -0800
>> Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com<mailto:rbourland at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys.  Robert Kieffer and I are both tenants in the TechSpace Old
>>> Cigar building, so either of us can make conference room arrangements.
>>> Tuesdays are best for me. :)
>>
>>    Hurray!  How do others feel about Tuesdays?
>>
>>
>> --TimH
Tuesdays work for me.

Andrew


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From rbourland at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 16:17:44 2012
From: rbourland at gmail.com (Rusty Bourland)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:17:44 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
In-Reply-To: <A2D33B71FD593F489CEB87606BCA619C0468F6618A@DFW1MBX20.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
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Message-ID: <4F1F4A28.1080906@gmail.com>

Let's plan for 6pm-7pm (or so) February 7 at the Old Cigar Building - 
906 NW Harriman St - with Tim giving a talk on Perl things.  Bring 
growlers and laptops if you like.

On 1/24/12 11:24 AM, Josh Richesin wrote:
>
> I would also like to see a standard schedule like this.
>
> *From:*bendug-bounces at lists.130collective.org 
> [mailto:bendug-bounces at lists.130collective.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:48 AM
> *To:* Bend unix/linux user group
> *Subject:* Re: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
>
> Monthly Tuesdays, like 1st Tuesday of the Month or so, would work for me.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:14 AM, David <david at fierbaugh.net 
> <mailto:david at fierbaugh.net>> wrote:
>
> Most Tuesdays work for me.
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Winnenberg <awinnenb at gmail.com 
> <mailto:awinnenb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 01/23/2012 05:23 PM, Josh Richesin wrote:
> > Usually works for me.
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:20 PM, "Tim Howe" <thowe at bendtel.net 
> <mailto:thowe at bendtel.net>> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:05:42 -0800
> >> Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com <mailto:rbourland at gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey guys.  Robert Kieffer and I are both tenants in the TechSpace Old
> >>> Cigar building, so either of us can make conference room arrangements.
> >>> Tuesdays are best for me. :)
> >>
> >>    Hurray!  How do others feel about Tuesdays?
> >>
> >>
> >> --TimH
>
> Tuesdays work for me.
>
> Andrew
>

-- 
Rusty Bourland
rbourland at gmail.com

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From thowe at bendtel.net  Tue Jan 24 17:59:08 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (TimH)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:59:08 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:17:44 -0800
Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com> wrote:

> Let's plan for 6pm-7pm (or so) February 7 at the Old Cigar Building - 
> 906 NW Harriman St - with Tim giving a talk on Perl things.  Bring 
> growlers and laptops if you like.

	I actually think Andrew was going to go first ;)

--TimH

From thowe at bendtel.net  Tue Jan 24 19:57:51 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (TimH)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:57:51 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:59:08 -0800
TimH <thowe at bendtel.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:17:44 -0800
> Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Let's plan for 6pm-7pm (or so) February 7 at the Old Cigar Building - 
> > 906 NW Harriman St - with Tim giving a talk on Perl things.  Bring 
> > growlers and laptops if you like.
> 
> 	I actually think Andrew was going to go first ;)

	That does give me two weekends, though.  I think that should be
enough to have something to talk about.

---TimH

From awinnenb at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 20:15:35 2012
From: awinnenb at gmail.com (Andrew Winnenberg)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:15:35 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Maybe meeting sometime soon? Perl?
In-Reply-To: <20120124195751.4a60fb97@sleeper.dirtymonday.net>
References: <20120112190603.2bc73c5a@sleeper.dirtymonday.net>
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Message-ID: <201201242015.35530.awinnenb@gmail.com>

On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:57:51 PM TimH wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:59:08 -0800
> 
> TimH <thowe at bendtel.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:17:44 -0800
> > 
> > Rusty Bourland <rbourland at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Let's plan for 6pm-7pm (or so) February 7 at the Old Cigar Building -
> > > 906 NW Harriman St - with Tim giving a talk on Perl things.  Bring
> > > growlers and laptops if you like.
> > 	
> > 	I actually think Andrew was going to go first ;)
> 
> 	That does give me two weekends, though.  I think that should be
> enough to have something to talk about.
> 
> ---TimH

Either works for me. I'll take March 6th if you want to handle February.

Andrew

From thowe at bendtel.net  Mon Jan 30 10:41:15 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:41:15 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Older industrial computers free to good home
Message-ID: <20120130104115.44cdbcdf@spook.bendtel.com>

We are getting rid of some computers that used to run part of our
business several years ago.  These are large PC cases with AT PC Power
and Cooling power supplies (double size) and have industrial back
planes for plugging in multiple single board computers.  We also have
(I think) at least one single board computer in each one.  I think
these are Pentium 3 at 1Ghz.

	They are interesting machines, and we have something like 10 of
them.  All were working when we pulled them.  There have been some
minor modifications to the cases to improve airflow, but all are clean
and looking pretty decent.  They are tall and heavy, obviously.

	If multiple people want some, we'll split them up first come
first serve.  I think we have a couple other interesting little bits as
well.

	Any takers?  Looking to get rid of them later today or
tomorrow.  We can set up a time and I'll make sure they are pulled from
storage and ready.  I think we want to pull and wipe the hard drives,
but after that you can have those as well (WD 80G mostly, I think).
May not be today, but I'll get them to you as soon as I can.

	Oh, there is one special bad-ass machine that I don't know much
about, but it is also an industrial back plane box.  I keep wishing I
could come up with something to do with it because it is awesome, but I
could let it go to a good home if someone wanted to breath life into it
or turn the case into something cool...

--TimH

From awinnenb at gmail.com  Mon Jan 30 10:50:43 2012
From: awinnenb at gmail.com (Andrew Winnenberg)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:50:43 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Older industrial computers free to good home
In-Reply-To: <20120130104115.44cdbcdf@spook.bendtel.com>
References: <20120130104115.44cdbcdf@spook.bendtel.com>
Message-ID: <4F26E683.4060509@gmail.com>

On 01/30/2012 10:41 AM, Tim Howe wrote:
> We are getting rid of some computers that used to run part of our
> business several years ago.  These are large PC cases with AT PC Power
> and Cooling power supplies (double size) and have industrial back
> planes for plugging in multiple single board computers.  We also have
> (I think) at least one single board computer in each one.  I think
> these are Pentium 3 at 1Ghz.

<snip>

> --TimH

Hey Tim,

Sign me up for one. The special bad-ass if it's still available.

Andrew

From thowe at bendtel.net  Mon Jan 30 11:47:38 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:47:38 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Older industrial computers free to good home
In-Reply-To: <4F26E683.4060509@gmail.com>
References: <20120130104115.44cdbcdf@spook.bendtel.com>
 <4F26E683.4060509@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120130114738.741d8d47@spook.bendtel.com>

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:50:43 -0800
Andrew Winnenberg <awinnenb at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 01/30/2012 10:41 AM, Tim Howe wrote:
> > We are getting rid of some computers that used to run part of our
> > business several years ago.  These are large PC cases with AT PC Power
> > and Cooling power supplies (double size) and have industrial back
> > planes for plugging in multiple single board computers.  We also have
> > (I think) at least one single board computer in each one.  I think
> > these are Pentium 3 at 1Ghz.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > --TimH
> 
> Hey Tim,
> 
> Sign me up for one. The special bad-ass if it's still available.
> 
> Andrew

	Well, here's the thing, we want to get rid of the lot, not just
one or two.

--TimH

From thowe at bendtel.net  Mon Jan 30 11:54:22 2012
From: thowe at bendtel.net (Tim Howe)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:54:22 -0800
Subject: [Bendug] Older industrial computers free to good home
In-Reply-To: <4F26E683.4060509@gmail.com>
References: <20120130104115.44cdbcdf@spook.bendtel.com>
 <4F26E683.4060509@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120130115422.3f497a05@spook.bendtel.com>

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:50:43 -0800
Andrew Winnenberg <awinnenb at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 01/30/2012 10:41 AM, Tim Howe wrote:
> > We are getting rid of some computers that used to run part of our
> > business several years ago.  These are large PC cases with AT PC Power
> > and Cooling power supplies (double size) and have industrial back
> > planes for plugging in multiple single board computers.  We also have
> > (I think) at least one single board computer in each one.  I think
> > these are Pentium 3 at 1Ghz.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > --TimH
> 
> Hey Tim,
> 
> Sign me up for one. The special bad-ass if it's still available.

	Can I talk you into taking two?

	I have the big metal one set aside under your name.

--TimH